Swap panes - again!

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John Kay

13 Jul, 2019 04:41 PM

A while back (2015) I asked for an icon to swap panes. Someone else had brought this up in 2012. I asked again in 2018, and another poster complained very recently about the same thing.
Every time, you post the same boiler-plate reply, that you will pass this over, etc., etc.

Virtually every other dual pane file manager has an icon in the toolbar (or they have one available to add to one's personal toolbar) to swap panes. Your file manager is one of the better, full featured products, yet it still - after all these years - lacks this simple tool. Yes, we can press F2, but unless one presses fn/F2, you just alter the screen brightness. So, two hands required on a full size iMac's keyboard, and I have to drop the mouse I am working with. Or, I have to assign a key (and remember it) as a substitution for your default command, and I think that's crazy.

This must be one of the simplest things to add, and yet you just don't! Please tell me why not. If you think it is unnecessary, please explain why most (if not all) other products include the feature.

Please do not reply with the usual, same response. I am not in any way wishing to appear to be rude to you, or anyone else on the team. I just find this annoying and frustrating. Frankly, I find myself using a competitor's product more often these days, because I can swap panes in an instant, with a click!

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 14 Jul, 2019 12:52 PM

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    Hi John,

    Thanks for reaching out!

    May I ask what is your use-case for this action? Do you use it with Horizontal or Vertical panes? Would it work if we add it as an Action Menu item (accessible from the Action menu toolbar icon)?

    Please, also note that this is not as simple to add (e.g. we would have to order a new icon for the button, and test the interaction again) as it looks.

    Looking forward to your reply!

    Best Regards,
    Jordan 
    Path Finder Support Team

  2. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 14 Jul, 2019 12:52 PM.

  3. John Kay re-opened this discussion on 14 Jul, 2019 03:55 PM

  4. 2 Posted by John Kay on 14 Jul, 2019 03:55 PM

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    Hello Jordan,

    I use the horizontal layout (panes side by side  - and I have sidebars
    on each side, which I love).

    No to the action menu idea, as that would just take a bit longer for the
    function.  Admittedly, it's still with the mouse, but adds a further bit
    of looking at a menu and another click.

    I'm certainly no programmer, but you already have the code written for
    "swap panes".   It's done.  You only have to draw a button for it (not
    hard!), and assign that button to the code you've already written - so
    you then have the option of the button or a keyboard shortcut - very
    common just about everywhere in programs of all sorts, including Path
    Finder!

    Again, I'm not trying to be rude or cleverer than you all.  My
    programming skills approach zero, but I would entreat you to look at
    other file managers like Crax Commander, DCommander, Forklift,
    muCommander and so on.  They all have an icon to swap panes.

    Regards,

    John

  5. Support Staff 3 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 15 Jul, 2019 09:45 AM

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    Hi John,

    Thank you for the feedback! 

    Path Finder as a lot of features and possible actions, and assigning a button to each of them (or even to a tenth of them) is a lot of work, without even accounting for the fact that the toolbar palette is already quite crowded. While your request is just for a single button/action, there are a few similar requests for buttons for other features. It's possible we will come up with a toolbar palette redesign, a way to add custom buttons, or another clever solution that would be more universal/expandable than the current one. This request is simple in isolation, but at practice we have to consider quite a few more variables. I hope that helps to explain the challenges that might not be obvious at the first glance.

    That being said, I have forwarded your message to our developers as a feature request for consideration so that it could be implemented in one of our future cycles.

    We appreciate your continued support of Path Finder!
    Make sure to let us know should any further questions/ideas arise. 

    Best regards,
    Jordan
    Path Finder Support Team

  6. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 15 Jul, 2019 09:45 AM.

  7. John Kay re-opened this discussion on 15 Jul, 2019 06:10 PM

  8. 4 Posted by John Kay on 15 Jul, 2019 06:10 PM

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    OK.  I understand where you are on this, but the request was first made
    many years ago....

    The fact is that you are just about the only major (or even minor)
    provider of a Mac dual pane file manager that does not provide this
    button.  That alone should convince you that the request is not for an
    arcane or rarely used feature.

    Anyway, thanks for your response, but I would expect that the developers
    had already seen this feature request more than once over the years.

    I still enjoy using PF, and will continue to do so, but this does
    irritate me.

    Have a great day, and kindest regards,

    John

  9. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 17 Jul, 2019 11:04 AM.

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