DOC files not recognized as documents by PF8?

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japchap

18 May, 2019 05:30 AM

I'm running PF 8.3.9, and I've noticed that when I use the "Arrange by Kind" option for sorting the window content, Microsoft Word files with the .doc extension (the original MS Word format) do not get grouped along with .docx (the new MS Word format).

Have a look at the attached image, which shows the problem.

What I would expect to see is that both the ".doc" format and the ".docx" format are grouped into "Documents." Currently, PF8 recognizes .docx as "documents," and ".doc" as "Other". This doesn't make sense, as .doc is a well-established (albeit now deprecated) format for Word files. This poses a usability issue, and makes files harder to find, especially when the file list is long and contains many Word files.

It would be good if the developers could fix this display-related issue, so that .doc and .docx files are both sorted as "Documents". Thanks for your attention.

Regards,

Jeff

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 18 May, 2019 06:45 AM

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    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for reaching out!

    May I ask if the same is true for Finder on your Mac?

    Please feel free to write us back and we will be happy to assist you.

    Best Regards,
    Jordan 
    Path Finder Support Team

  2. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 18 May, 2019 06:45 AM.

  3. japchap re-opened this discussion on 18 May, 2019 06:58 AM

  4. 2 Posted by japchap on 18 May, 2019 06:58 AM

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    Thanks for your really quick attention, Jordan.

    Great question. However, in Finder, the .doc and .docx files are grouped together as "Documents," as shown in the image below.

    The way that Finder does it seems more logical and preferable for my tastes, since the .doc format belongs to the "Documents" category.

  5. Support Staff 3 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 18 May, 2019 07:17 AM

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    Hi Jeff,

    May I ask you to share the file info (Control + Click -> Get Info or ⌘ + I)? Specifically, what's the file "Kind" from Info panel?

    Is this true for every .doc file you have?

    Please feel free to write us back and we will be happy to assist you.

    Best Regards,
    Jordan 
    Path Finder Support Team

  6. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 18 May, 2019 07:17 AM.

  7. japchap re-opened this discussion on 18 May, 2019 07:43 AM

  8. 4 Posted by japchap on 18 May, 2019 07:43 AM

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    Jordan,

    The file's kind as shown in the Path Finder info is "Microsoft Word 97 - 2004 document (.doc)". I can create a new file using Path Finder and rename it as "xxx.doc", and the file info reads the same. The behavior is the same for all .doc files.

    I'm not sure whether Path Finder uses the file's UTI or the file's extension when determining the type, but in any case it does not seem right to group a .doc file as "Other," when it is clearly a Microsoft Word document. (That said, I did read on Wikipedia the following: "Some historical documentations may use the DOC filename extension for plain-text file format. The DOC filename extension was also used in historical versions of WordPerfect for its proprietary format.")

    In any case, .DOC is a document, right?

    Jeff

  9. Support Staff 5 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 18 May, 2019 08:38 AM

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    Hi Jeff,

    Correct. The "Kind" should be updated dynamically though. 
    Could you please try assigning the .doc files another app (e.g. Pages) through the Open With module in Get Info, and then back to your preferred application? 

    Please feel free to write us back and we will be happy to assist you.

    Best Regards,
    Jordan 
    Path Finder Support Team

  10. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 18 May, 2019 08:38 AM.

  11. japchap re-opened this discussion on 18 May, 2019 08:53 AM

  12. 6 Posted by japchap on 18 May, 2019 08:53 AM

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    Thanks for your reply, Jordan.

    I did what you suggested. The results are as shown below.
    First, I changed the file association for .doc files to open in TextEdit. Here is what the file's info looked like at that point (attached image).

    Then, I changed the file association for .doc files back to Microsoft Word. Here is what the file info looked like (see the other attached image).

    No change in the sorting on the Path Finder window—the .doc file is still listed under "Other".

  13. Support Staff 7 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 22 May, 2019 11:11 AM

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    Hi Jeff,

    I've reported this issue to our development team. 

    Path Finder receives the "kind" info from MacOS API, so usually, this is the same in Finder, Path Finder, and any other app.

    Please feel free to write us back and we will be happy to assist you.

    Best Regards,
    Jordan 
    Path Finder Support Team

  14. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 22 May, 2019 11:11 AM.

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