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mklengel

20 Dec, 2018 07:10 PM

I try to work with the PF terminal (e.g. "Open in terminal"). Using for example the "|" (aka pipe) has a strange effect:

Example:

Apple Terminal and iTerm works as expected:
$ ls | more

PF Terminal shows directly after entering the "|":
(arg: 7)

May be I didn’t read the manual... what's going on here?

Regards
Michael

23.04.2020: PF 9.2 (2044) installed and the problem remains... I believe the handling of a Non-US keyboard (here: German) is incorrect.

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 21 Dec, 2018 04:08 PM

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    Hi Michael, 

    Please follow the instruction and check if the issue still persists: 

    1. Make sure that Path Finder is located in the Applications folder
      (in case you are using macOS Mojave) Use System Preferences > Security & Privacy > grant Full Disk Access to Path Finder

    2. Open your terminal and paste the following command to check if Path Finder has been slapped with the quarantined extended attribute:
      xattr /Applications/"Path Finder.app"

    3. If you see com.apple.quarantine returned as output from that last command, then go ahead and run this next command:
      xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/"Path Finder.app"

    You won't get any feedback or output from that command, but that's okay because you can just run the first command again to see for yourself if the com.apple.quarantine attribute shows up again. It shouldn't, and now Path Finder is freed from Apple quarantine jail. Restart your PathFinder now. 

    Don't hesitate to contact us should any questions arise. 

    Best Regards,
    Jordan
    Path Finder Support Team 

  2. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 21 Dec, 2018 04:08 PM.

  3. mklengel re-opened this discussion on 21 Dec, 2018 04:10 PM

  4. 2 Posted by mklengel on 21 Dec, 2018 04:10 PM

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    Hi Jordan,

    Michaels-MacBook-Pro:patched mklengel$ xattr /Applications/Path\ Finder.app
    Michaels-MacBook-Pro:patched mklengel$

    Regards
    Michael

    »A computer is like air conditioning - it becomes useless when you open Windows.« Linus Torvalds

    > Am 21.12.2018 um 17:08 schrieb Path Finder Support Team <[email blocked]>:
    >
    > From: Path Finder Support Team (Cocoatech Support)
    > Subject: PF Terminal
    >
    > Hi Michael,
    >
    > Please follow the instruction and check if the issue still persists:
    >
    > 1. Make sure that Path Finder is located in the Applications folder
    > (in case you are using macOS Mojave) Use System Preferences > Security & Privacy > grant Full Disk Access to Path Finder
    >
    > 2. Open your terminal and paste the following command to check if Path Finder has been slapped with the quarantined extended attribute:
    > xattr /Applications/"Path Finder.app"
    >
    > 3. If you see `com.apple.quarantine` returned as output from that last command, then go ahead and run this next command:
    > xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/"Path Finder.app"
    >
    > You won't get any feedback or output from that command, but that's okay because you can just run the first command again to see for yourself if the `com.apple.quarantine` attribute shows up again. It shouldn't, and now Path Finder is freed from Apple quarantine jail. Restart your PathFinder now.
    >
    > Don't hesitate to contact us should any questions arise.
    >
    > Best Regards,
    > Jordan
    > Path Finder Support Team
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > View this discussion at our support site online: http://support.cocoatech.com/discussions/problems/125781-pf-terminal
    >
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  5. Support Staff 3 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 21 Dec, 2018 08:00 PM

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    Hi Michael,

    There were many complains on PF's Terminal, thanks for your issue report, too. 
    Let's wait now please until developers review the Terminal. Hopefully, fixes are on the way. 

    Please feel free to write us back and we will be happy to assist you.

    Best Regards,
    Jordan 
    Path Finder Support Team

  6. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 21 Dec, 2018 08:00 PM.

  7. mklengel re-opened this discussion on 23 Feb, 2019 12:40 PM

  8. 4 Posted by mklengel on 23 Feb, 2019 12:40 PM

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    Hello Support,

    it doesn’t work with PF 8.3.9.

    Thx
    Michael

  9. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 25 Feb, 2019 10:27 AM.

  10. mklengel re-opened this discussion on 14 Nov, 2019 01:03 PM

  11. 5 Posted by mklengel on 14 Nov, 2019 01:03 PM

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    Hello Support,

    the problem remains with PF 9.0.3. Using the PF Terminal directly (open in Terminal) and via the Module mechanism results in the same problem:
    ########## typing the pipe key "|" (arg: 7)

    Workaround for open in Terminal: iTerm or Apple Terminal
    Workaround for the Module Terminal: ?

    Mojave as before, xattr procedure completed, no change.

    Regards
    Michael

  12. 6 Posted by mklengel on 13 Feb, 2020 10:44 PM

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    Hello Support,

    the problem remains with PF 9.0.6.
    Really no solution in sight?

    Regards
    Michael

  13. 7 Posted by mklengel on 26 Feb, 2020 09:39 AM

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    Hello Support,

    I've installed PF 9.0.7 now - the problem remains.
    Are you sure you checked the terminal module with a German keyboard?
    Of course every keyboard should work.

    The key combination of the symbol "|" (aka pipe) on a German keyboard is "ALT-7"....

    Currently the terminal module is not usable.

    Regards
    Michael

  14. 8 Posted by mklengel on 14 May, 2020 02:33 PM

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    Hello Support,

    PF 9.3 (2047) installed and... the problem remains.

    No bug fixing since Dec 20, 2018, really????

    Regards
    Michael

  15. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 18 May, 2020 08:56 AM.

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  17. Support Staff 9 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 18 May, 2020 08:57 AM

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    Hi Michael,

    Mary from Path Finder support here!

    First of all, I am very sorry for such a delay in response. I understand how frustrating it might be not to be able to use the feature in the most efficient way. Nevertheless, we are dedicated in fixing it, however, we would need to acquire some information about this behavior.

    Does the issue occur only when you are using German keyboard or does it persist no matter the keyboard type you are using? We would also ask you to provide us with a screen recording of the issue.

    You can check on how to record a video recording here. After doing so, please upload it to Google Drive, Dropbox or any other storage provider and send a link to me.

    Please feel free to write us back, and we will be happy to assist you.

    Best Regards,
    Mary 
    Path Finder Support Team

  18. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 18 May, 2020 08:57 AM.

  19. mklengel re-opened this discussion on 18 May, 2020 11:11 AM

  20. 10 Posted by mklengel on 18 May, 2020 11:11 AM

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    Hello Mary,

    I'm using a German keyboard - may be this is the reason for the problem.
    Again: the pipe symbol cannot be entered on my (German) keyboard, PF 9.3.2.
    Doing this standalone (without PF) in Terminal (Apple) or iTerm works as expected - of course...

    The screen recording can be found here:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WHTzEofpEVknnQAY4dEDJjVajpNzY4Cx/v...

    Regards
    Michael

  21. Support Staff 11 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 19 May, 2020 08:19 AM

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    Hi Michael, 

    Thanks for getting back with a screen recording.

    I tested it on my end, and was not able to reproduce the issue.

    Could you send us a sample (a snapshot) of Path Finder process in a separate file? This will enable us to analyze what happens with the application. 

    Here's how to get it:

    1. Open Path Finder and reproduce the problem. If the problem is dynamic (e.g. unexpected action result), please try reproducing it during the sample collection.
    2. Open Activity Monitor from the /Applications/Utilities folder.
    3. Select Path Finder in the process list. To help making a selection, type "Path Finder" in the Filter field.
    4. Click the Sample Process button in the toolbar - this will open a new window entitled "Sample of Path Finder" and a sample of the process is collected.
    5. Click Save and save the sample file.
    6. Close (Command-W) the Sample window opened in step 2.
    7. Send the sample file saved in step 5 to us. 

    Please also specify the macOS and the Path Finder version you are using.

    Looking forward to your reply!

    Best Regards,
    Mary
    Path Finder Support Team

  22. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 19 May, 2020 08:19 AM.

  23. mklengel re-opened this discussion on 20 May, 2020 12:35 PM

  24. 12 Posted by mklengel on 20 May, 2020 12:35 PM

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  25. Support Staff 13 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 22 May, 2020 12:20 PM

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    Hi Michael, 

    Thank you for the sample! 

    I have forwarded your email to our developers. It may take some time to investigate the details of the issue. 

    Be sure to let us know should any additional questions arise. 

    Best Regards, 
    Mary
    Path Finder Support Team

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  28. 14 Posted by mklengel on 16 Jul, 2020 11:30 AM

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    Hello Mary,

    any progress after such a long time?

    Currently I'm using version 9.3.5 (2054), same problem since Dec 20, 2018.

    Regards
    Michael

  29. Support Staff 15 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 18 Jul, 2020 10:57 AM

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    Hi Michael,

    Our developer is aware of this issue and it still under investigation. 

    Can you please forward us the sample file of such issue in the most updated version?

    Best Regards,
    Mary 
    Path Finder Support Team

  30. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 18 Jul, 2020 10:57 AM.

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  32. 16 Posted by mklengel on 22 Jul, 2020 01:18 PM

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    Hello Mary,

    done again - see the attached file. The screen recording to reproduce this is the same als in post #10.

    If this works with an english keyboard: I'm using an German keyboard as I mentioned before.

    Regards
    Michael

  33. Support Staff 17 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 23 Jul, 2020 08:12 AM

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    Hi Michael, 

    Thank you for the sample! 

    I have forwarded your email to our developers.

    Best Regards, 
    Mary
    Path Finder Support Team

  34. Path Finder Support Team closed this discussion on 23 Jul, 2020 08:12 AM.

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  36. Support Staff 18 Posted by Dragan on 23 Sep, 2020 05:42 PM

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    Hi Michael,

    I'm so sorry for such delayed response, it only now caught my attention :-(

    Anyway, this isn't a bug in Path Finder terminal. There's an option in terminal setting Option key is meta. If that option is set to ON, the alt/option key is treated in a special way and you can do some very nice and convenient things with that option. For more information about what you can do with it, see this. The drawback of using this option is you can't simply type any character that requires using the alt/option key. And that's the case for many characters when using German keyboard (like pipe '|').

    This option is also present in built-in Terminal.app and iTerm and if you set them ON, the behaviour is exactly the same as in Path Finder terminal.

    The only thing is, in Path Finder this option is set to ON by default, whereas in built-in Terminal.app and iTerm it is OFF by default. All new terminal sessions in Path Finder get settings from Path Finder terminal preferences, see attached image preferences.png. Once the session is open, particular settings for that session can be changed. Sessions settings can be shown/hidden in a terminal window by invoking contextual menu (right-click on the window toolbar if it doesn't have tabs, or right-click in a tab if window has more tabbed sessions), see attached image window.png. In a terminal module, session settings can be invoked by clicking the gear icon on the far left of the module header, see attached image module.png.

  37. Support Staff 19 Posted by Dragan on 23 Sep, 2020 05:43 PM

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    Sorry, forgot to attach module.png.

  38. Dragan closed this discussion on 23 Sep, 2020 05:45 PM.

  39. mklengel re-opened this discussion on 23 Sep, 2020 09:40 PM

  40. 20 Posted by mklengel on 23 Sep, 2020 09:40 PM

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    Hello Dragan,

    thx for the solution after nearly 2 years :-)

    Its not the end of the world so I take it easy. May be this Meta-Key stuff should be documented on your site (FAQ?) and should not be the default.

    Regards
    Michael

    »Of course, someone who knows more about this will correct me if I'm wrong, and someone who knows less will correct me if I'm right.« David Palmer

    > Am 23.09.2020 um 19:43 schrieb Dragan <[email blocked]>:
    >
    > From: Dragan (Cocoatech Support)
    > Subject: PF Terminal
    >
    > Sorry, forgot to attach **module.png**.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > View this discussion at our support site online: https://support.cocoatech.com/discussions/problems/125781-pf-terminal
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