Sidebar changes not sticking? UPDATE - it works! 8.5.1
UPDATE: May 30,2019
The original post was almost 1 year ago 6/2018. I had almost given up hope.... (but fingers crossed) 8.5.1 looks like it's working for me and the sidebar prefs, positions etc are holding. The old post follows below, but I wanted to make since there have been some follow up posts on the topic I thought I'd include this update.
I've tried this a couple times, I must be missing something. With PF7 the changes to the sidebar, arrangement, favorites etc would be saved and recreated with a new browser window. But with PF8 if arrange the sidebar and/or make changes to favorites etc, save the browser (New Browser>Save Browser) and open new windows everything is fine until I close all the windows. Then choosing the newly saved browser, or just a cmd-N will cause the sidebar to revert to the sidebar.
Am I mistaken that the sidebar should be saved within the saved browser, or even just saved by default? Is there another setting that I am missing?
thanks in advance.
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1 Posted by Vaughan on 14 Jun, 2018 03:52 PM
Strangely, I have exactly the same problem on my MacPro but not on my MacBookPro. I changed the sidebar on both computers to contain my favourites but after closing all the windows on the MacPro or restarting, the sidebar returns to its defaults.
2 Posted by J8ck on 14 Jun, 2018 04:06 PM
Hi Vaughan
hmmmm... I am also having the problem with a MacPro 5,1 mid-2012 10.12.16
I was also experiencing some full blank screens as I tried to create new browsers from saved settings. So I de-registered and used AppDelete to get rid of any "extra pieces" or legacy files in case they were creating the problem. Then I reinstalled PF8 but unfortunately I experienced the same issues.
At this point I have downgraded to PF7 (7.6.2), seems to be a couple too many issues with this version and I need to get my work done. PF7 works fine for me and the features are good. I also find the sidebar in PF7 to be easier to use than PF8.. not sure why though. And it remembers the favorites which happens to be the primary feature that I do use.
regards
j
3 Posted by Vaughan on 15 Jun, 2018 10:48 AM
In addition, on my MacPro PathFinder regularly freezes when I try to close a window (spinning ball of death) and I have to force quit it. Never had this before. I might have to go back to v. 7 just as you did.
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4 Posted by webregnet on 16 Jun, 2018 02:57 PM
Same problems, even with the last update PF 8.0.2, when closing PF window, sidebar reset to default...
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5 Posted by Alan on 16 Jun, 2018 04:12 PM
I have recently been losing my sidebar favorites in Finder as well. Drives me crazy. And, the Finder Favorites are not showing up in PathFinder.
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6 Posted by Keith on 18 Jun, 2018 12:18 PM
I'm also seeing this. Very annoying since I depend on the Favorites in sidebar for one-click navigation.
7 Posted by Vaughan on 18 Jun, 2018 12:20 PM
A response from CocoaTech would be nice...
8 Posted by webregnet on 18 Jun, 2018 12:26 PM
You must save your sidebar, by this way you keep your settings when you reload it or quit PF8 and open it again.
Until bug is solved, I'm doing this...
9 Posted by Vaughan on 18 Jun, 2018 01:07 PM
I don't see any command for saving the sidebar. How did you do it?
10 Posted by webregnet on 18 Jun, 2018 01:41 PM
On the top of the sidebar
click on 'ratchet icon'
when popup
click on the bottom 'setting'
then 'save...' a give a name
Save also the browser
'File' 'New browser' Save...
In my case, I name all these saved settings with date
20180618 SB for sidebar
20180618 MB for main browser
By this way I can restore like in time machine when a bug occurs
11 Posted by Vaughan on 18 Jun, 2018 01:57 PM
Thank you! That's very useful. I've done what you suggested and, while it shouldn't be necessary, it's certainly faster than redoing the sidebar favourites.
12 Posted by Vaughan on 18 Jun, 2018 02:00 PM
Now it would be nice if they solved the bug which causes PF to freeze (displaying the spinning ball of death) every so often when closing a window, causing me to have to force quit it.
13 Posted by webregnet on 18 Jun, 2018 02:07 PM
You need to do the both save setting to work properly (amazing to say that about bug application)
By this way when you open first PF8 your new settings are restored.
After that, most of the time it's faster to quit PF8 and open it to get back your settings.
We really need to keep relax with this 'on work' version.... or we'll blow a fuse ;-)
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14 Posted by J8ck on 18 Jun, 2018 05:15 PM
Vaughn reported that it was working with a MacBook but not working with his MacPro...
Is this a recognized issue within Cocoatech support? or should we be submitting reports of our systems?
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15 Posted by webregnet on 01 Jul, 2018 02:00 AM
PF 8.0.3, is the third update and this incredible bug is not fixed !!!!!!
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16 Posted by webregnet on 09 Jul, 2018 07:02 AM
PF 8.0.4 update and this incredible bug is not fixed !!!!!!
17 Posted by J8ck on 09 Jul, 2018 12:16 PM
Is this a universal problem?
does this effect everyone or is it specific to OS, Mac, stuck prefs etc?
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18 Posted by Robin on 11 Aug, 2018 11:31 AM
Yep this fundamental bug is affecting me too. In PF7 the sidebar favourites always reflected Finder, which I found useful. At the very least, my changes were never lost. I'm struggling to see anything in PF8 that I find useful over and above what PF7 did, and PF7 worked with no problems!
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19 Posted by enkaytee on 12 Aug, 2018 12:35 PM
In another thread Jordan has admitted that this is expected behaviour -
"Please make sure to save Sidebar preferences in its preferences window (gear button next to the Sidebar title). Creating new file browser uses default PathFinder preferences.
This behavior is often questioned by PathFinder users so our developers will review it when they get a chance."
I find this incredible given the number of times he's come across like they don't know anything about it - I really don't thnk I can trust Cocoatech any more...
20 Posted by webregnet on 12 Aug, 2018 12:45 PM
So many topics about this huge bug.
Saving sidebar or browser preferences don't change anything at all, except restoring your preset, the bug is still here when you close a window.
I'm wondering if there's a captain at the helm of the ship Cocoatech, because the crew and its passengers have been drifting for a long time.
Sad report of a future shipwreck announced...
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21 Posted by groomedmonkey on 25 May, 2019 11:31 AM
It is frustrating that every new sidebar module instance comes with "Default" settings. Could we change that (or add a preference) so that it instances with whatever the last used sidebar settings save was? I think this is what users expect by default and would save a lot of anger and frustration at losing customisations (assuming we remember to save the sidebar settings the first time).
Also, you are not helping users that the sidebar doesn't state-save. So every time I customise my favourites I have to remember to save the sidebar!
It's way too many clicks to go to the cog, go to the bottom of the panel, click the dropdown, and select the actual sidebar I want.
22 Posted by Gmail on 25 May, 2019 11:36 AM
nigel turley
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23 Posted by dhnyny on 25 May, 2019 06:45 PM
I like the suggestion made by groomedmonkey but I'd take it a step further: It would be great if PF could autosave all changes you make to any module, not just the sidebar module, and then use those autosaved changes as the new defaults for the next time you open an instance of that module. This would solve what has been a huge sticking point for many old users concerning PF8's module architecture: The inability to toggle on/off (or, if you like, show/hide) a module in a specific location with persistent settings (reproducing the old shelf model).
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24 Posted by J8ck on 30 May, 2019 09:17 PM
UPDATE: May 30,2019
The original post was almost 1 year ago 6/2018. I had almost given up hope.... (but fingers crossed) 8.5.1 looks like it's working for me and the sidebar prefs, positions etc are holding.
thank you,
Support Staff 25 Posted by Path Finder Sup... on 02 Jun, 2019 08:27 PM
Hi J8ck,
I'm glad to hear that. Please, keep us posted!
Best Regards,
Jordan
Path Finder Support Team
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