Note that PathFinder 7 and PathFinder 8 use the same Application Support Folder.
Because of this, if I use PathFinder 8, my custom colored label colors from PathFinder 7 are ERASED.
This seriously inhibits me from using PathFinder 8 simultaneously with PathFinder 7.
I wish PathFinder 8 had a different Application support folder - which can be a subfolder of a primary application support folder. This would allow us to simultaneously use two different versions of PathFinder.
Specifically, I use a dark background for my panels and the "new" colors in PF8 (apparently the default Apple colors??) are gaudy and way too bright. I rarely use the Finder and keeping the colors "compatible" is a non-issue for me. Customization is key for my workflow.
I've been a huge fan and user of PathFinder for many years, and strongly believe in independently-developed software. But If PF is now going to become a slave to Apple's rigid features, I'll have no use for PF. I hope you can find a way to enable adjustment of the tag colors.
Absence of custom label colors continues to prevent me from upgrading to PF8, and clearly disappoints a lot of long-time users. How difficult can it be? Can Cocoatech not at lest give some sort of commitment to reinstating the feature?
I'm still waiting patiently for this feature (custom colored labels) to come back to PathFinder. My initial request was 6 months ago. The inability to customize the label colors makes it difficult to use PathFinder since Path Finder shows different colors than what the Finder shows.
Agreed. At this point I have stopped using Pathfinder and am using Forklift because I need to colour tag a lot of files for my study, and with PF "white text on colour background" file names are unreadable, not to mention just plain ugly.
I agree - I like dark mode, but the tag colours in pathfinder make it impossible to read. Even just including the option to show the colour not as a background, but as a badge beside the filename would do wonders for readability.
Could be I'm hallucinating, but in PF 8.3.8 I'm now able to read file&folder names using colored tags. Previous to this the tags were too bright (as with psychiatry's yellow tag example in his Jan 13 post...). Not sure it matters, but I have unchecked "Use Default/System colors." both in View Options and Preferences>Appearance, and have tweaked the text and background colors a bit.
Presuming this was a bug-fix, THANK YOU to the PF team.
With Path Finder version 8.3.8, Cocoatech's programmers has solved a LONG-STANDING file tag color mismatch problem that exists in many apps that try to render the Finder's tag colors.
For years, for whatever reason, Path Finder, Transmit, ForkLift and other FTP apps had a mismatch between the Finder Tag Colors and the actual colors they would render on my primary Mac account. The bug did not exist on other accounts on my Mac. The tag colors they rendered were the same as Pre-Mac OS X Tiger colors, NOT the more recent tag colors. [See my first post in this thread]
This drove me nuts because it made the apps nearly unusable since I organize so much using colors. For example, the bug caused Red in the Finder to be rendered Yellow by Path Finder and other apps, Orange was rendered Green, etc.
PATH FINDER 7 allowed me to customize the tag colors to work around this deep persistent bug.
FORKLIFT solved this problem. Now their rendering of tag colors is the same as the Finder's tag colors.
Now PATH FINDER 8 has SOLVED THIS PROBLEM. So its tag color rendering now matches the Finder's tag colors.
Alas, PANIC'S TRANSMIT still has this problem, sad to say.
THIS UPDATE MAKES PATH FINDER 8 COMPLETELY USABLE FOR ME.
I now don't need customizable tag colors in Path Finder to correct its rendering problems (though it would still be great), since Path Finder's tag colors now match the Finder's tag colors.
Further, Cocoatech corrected Path Finder 8's DARK MODE VISIBILITY so that readability is vastly improved.
THIS GREAT NEWS. Path Finder 8 is ALIVE and is being actively developed and improved.
I'M HAPPY I CAN NOW USE PATH FINDER 8 FULL TIME.
This is despite its remaining bugs and module interface problems.
For example: despite the serious problem it has with its side bars being unable to accept symbolic links or aliases (one solution would be to simply resolve the link or alias and place the original in the side bar) ---> this is noted in a different thread.
It's an encouraging improvement for sure, but customizable tag colors (as per PF7) are still essential to me, and I'd love to hear from Cocoatech if and when they will return —and perhaps why it is such a problem.
I dunno. The colours are still dull and not the actual colours. I know I am still complaining, but I just don't quite understand how this can't be as clear and look the same (or have the same style as an option) as both Finder and Forklift.
Red is not "red". It's a dirty shade of red with a gradient on it. Same with green. It's not green. It's drab olive. Yellow is instead a dark, dirty mustard.
I think doublesupercool proves my point: the glory of Path Finder was that users could make it their own, and label colours form a very conspicuous part of how PF looks. One user's dirty mustard is another user's subtle old gold. Colour is personal. My own "yellow" in PF7 is actually more of a beige, and that's the way I like it because I know what it means to me and I like the look of an interface I am staring at for much of the day with colours that (to me) look good together. I understand that some people may not care about this, and that's all part of how colour means different things to different people, but when it matters it matters.
One user's dirty mustard or old gold is still not "yellow" as per finder and other apps. If PF wants to set their own take on these colours, so be it, but I honestly can't see why there isn't an option to also default to . . . well, the default actual colours that it seems every other app is capable of using.
It seems like you used to be able to do this. I don't know. The colours chosen still look terrible with my custom dark theme PF colours and average if I do the "use system colours" option.
I don't know. It's a small thing, but when the small things are off, it just makes me want to use it less and less.
Along comes Path Finder 8.5 with lots of shiny new options including TEN different compression formats. All very nice I'm sure, but why is Cocoatech still not responding to multiple pleas to restore custom label colours? Almost everything else in the interface is customisable, but this is a major omission for me. If a Cocoatech rep were to pop up and explain why it is so tricky to implement, I'd listen and maybe understand, but just being disappointed by successive PF8 updates without any explanation is so dispiriting. I have paid the upgrade fee because I want to support the project, but it begins to feel as if the project is not listening.
I support Cocoatech since PF6, but never feel same support from their support team.
Some features were asked to be back in PF8 since summer/autumn 2018. And now PF 8.5 and nothing, the project is not listening to us. When PF support team says they will pass request to devs I am not sure they really do.
We do pass the suggestions to our development team. We also keep track of the submitted feature requests even if the discussion is closed.
With the current release (Path Finder 8.5) we've received a number of new feature requests as well as many recurring ones - including re-coloring default tags and we hope this will improve our understanding of your desires and what features are key for you.
Thank you for your ongoing support. Please feel free to write us and we will be happy to assist you.
I will be straight up. I don't use Pathfinder any more because of this issue and I won't be doing any more paid upgrades.
It's such a minor thing, but if I don't want to even LOOK at the app, I certainly don't want to use it. I need to tag a lot of files. Pathfinder looks like ass for colour tagging. Forklift and Finder don't. End of story.
I have been reading this thread for a while now hoping Jordan or someone from Cocoatech will explain why this problem seems so intractable ... I appreciate you responding Jordan but you didn't answer the question. We just want to know why this apparently small request ... to control the color of tags like we used to be able to ... seems either a) low priority for Cocoatech despite numerous requests or b) is a really challenging problem to solve. Either way, I think we would all feel less frustrated if we got more than "thanks folks, we've passed it on." I went back to Version 7 to get customizable tags back but ended up with multiple other issues so PF is not very functional for me right now ... just one more voice in the wilderness ...
You can pass to your devs that they won't get a cent from me anymore. Although I believe they don't care. We've waited enough. Nothing was changed, nothing improved, out questions remain ignored, no answers. I say farewell to you, from here I take another road.
There are people at Cocoatech who could answer these reasonable questions.
Why will they not Jordan? Why?
Can they not see how frustrating it is wanting to be supportive but being met by a wall of silence?
This refusal to communicate can be the symptom of a developer on the edge of collapse. I hope that is not the case here, but some reassurance would not go amiss.
"This refusal to communicate can be the symptom of a developer on the edge of collapse"
This really struck me as highly insightful, cutting through all the noise to get to an underlying dynamic. I do not know how many people constitute Cocoatech, whether it is just one software engineer, plus a business or marketing person, plus Jordan as support technician. But this theory makes the most logical sense of everything that's been written to date in this thread. If that is the actual case, there's no way anyone from Cocoatech will confirm this, as it would lead very quickly to user abandonment, software sale losses and spiral downward into a rapid shuttering of the business.
Or maybe akin to this there is some software architecture issue whereby making these modest color label fixes would break some of the core components, and that is why there's been silence and stonewalling on addressing this feature set. In either case, the way forward to stability would be for the next 30-60 days to halt all other product enhancements and reallocate 80-90% engineering resources on fixing this color label function, in order to satisfy paying customers and to thereby renew confidence in the product's longevity.
First of all, please allow me to personally apologize for the delay in replying here.
I'm sorry to hear you are disappointed with our latest updates. Our developers do their best to improve and maintain Path Finder. For the last few month we've put a lot of effort into general Path Finder stability and compatibility with the new macOS version (You may enjoy Path Finder on macOS 10.15 Catalina).
We keep all of your requests open and listed so they are not lost. When same or similar features are requested a lot or there are continued interest, we do notice this and keep it in mind when planning new updates - moreover, we will have a big one out soon :).
In regards to the Tags and Ratings (and thus labels) specifically, I will forward your request to our developers. If you have any other reports, requests, or suggestion related to this component, feel free to post them here or email separately so I can group them under one overhaul request.
Please feel free to write us back and we will be happy to assist you.